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            <p>Thaks a lot,<br>
I really didn't care about that.<br>
Higor.<br>
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--- In <a href="mailto:sdpd%40yahoogroups.com";>sdpd...@yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>, Radovan Cerny &lt;Radovan.Cerny...@<wbr>...&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I think that your problem is in oxygen position. It should be 1/2 1/2 0.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Another typical error.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Measure two times before you cut (a Czech proverb ) ...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Best regards<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Radovan<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; higorfav a écrit :<br>
&gt; &gt; The tetragonal space group is the P4mm.<br>
&gt; &gt; The coordenates and the system used was BaTiO3 cubic phase. (Pm-3m)<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; atom  x    y    z<br>
&gt; &gt; Ba    0    0    0<br>
&gt; &gt; Ti    0.5  0.5  0.5  <br>
&gt; &gt; O     0.5  0    0<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Thanks for the help.<br>
&gt; &gt; Higor.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; --- In <a href="mailto:sdpd%40yahoogroups.com";>sdpd...@yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>, Radovan Cerny &lt;Radovan.Cerny...@<wbr>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;The problem you had was the wrong choice of the origin with<br>
respect to <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;the numerical values of the atomic coordinates you had. That's a<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; typical <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;error in the case of space groups which are tabulated with two<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; different <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;origins.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;That's not the case of Higor. His space group is Pm-3m.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;What are the atoms and atomic coordinates you have?<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;Radovan<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;Lujun...@EKM a écrit :<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;Hi, Higor:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;i hope i have understood your situation...<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;i came across the similar problem. Fortunately, Prof. Gottschalk<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; told me the right way. Please see the Step 1 in the link for details<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href="http://www.physik.uni-augsburg.de/~lujun/.";>http://www.physik.<wbr>uni-augsburg.<wbr>de/~lujun/<wbr>.</a><br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;Faithfully<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;Jun Lu<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;---------<wbr>-<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;Lst. Prof. Lijie Qiao<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;Department of Materials Physics and Chemistry<br>
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&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  ----- Original Message ----- <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  From: higorfav <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  To: <a href="mailto:sdpd%40yahoogroups.com";>sdpd...@yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a> <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:19 AM<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  Subject: [sdpd] Peak missing!<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  Dear all,<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  I tried to refine a spectra that teorically should be cubic, but<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; whem<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  I started the refinement just one peak (111) is missing on teorical<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  fitting, but the phase matchs with the experimental peak.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  Trying tetragonal symmetry, all peaks agree and refinement goes<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; well.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  I tried to change the origin of the system without result.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  The question is:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  Is there something to do in order to fit that missing peak or I<br>
have<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  to assume that the symmetry is tretagonal? Does anybody have<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; some ideas?<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  Thanks in avance.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;  Higor.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;   <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br>
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&gt; &gt;&gt;-- <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;Radovan Cerny<br>
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		font-family: Verdana;
		font-weight: bold;
		color: #333;
		text-transform: uppercase;
	}
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		padding: 0;
		margin: 2px 0;
	}
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	  clear: both;
	  border: 1px solid #e0ecee;  
	}
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	  font-weight: bold;
	  color: #ff7900;
	  float: right;
	  width: 2em;
	  text-align:right;
	  padding-right: .5em;
	}
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	}
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		text-decoration: none;
	}

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	}

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		font-size: 77%;
	}
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		background-color: #e0ecee;
		margin-bottom: 20px;
	}
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		padding: 0 0 0 8px;
		margin: 0;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor #ov li{
		list-style-type: square;
		padding: 6px 0;
		font-size: 77%;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{
		text-decoration: none;
		font-size: 130%;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor #nc{
	  background-color: #eee;
	  margin-bottom: 20px;
	  padding: 0 8px;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad{
		padding: 8px 0;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
		font-family: Arial;
		font-weight: bold;
		color: #628c2a;
		font-size: 100%;
		line-height: 122%;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
		text-decoration: none;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
		text-decoration: underline;
	}
	#ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
		margin: 0;
	}
	o{font-size: 0; }
	.MsoNormal{
	   margin: 0 0 0 0;
	}
	#ygrp-text tt{
	  font-size: 120%;
	}
	blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;}
	.replbq{margin:4}
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